Comments on: Biographical Study on Ishmael http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/ Christianity, Orthodoxy and Technology Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:21:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Andrew Mitry http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-1703 Andrew Mitry Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:12:55 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-1703 The only mention of Ishmael after Sarah's death is at Abraham's death - "And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah" Genesis 25:9 The only mention of Ishmael after Sarah’s death is at Abraham’s death – “And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah” Genesis 25:9

]]> By: kamal http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-1598 kamal Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:08:30 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-1598 did abraham took back hagar and ishmael after the death of sarah.... please evidence needed did abraham took back hagar and ishmael after the death of sarah…. please evidence needed

]]> By: Andrew Mitry http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Andrew Mitry Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:07:29 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-195 Muhammad does claim to be a descendant of Ishmael, it is outlined on <a title="Muhammad" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia.</a> I am not sure if the prophecy of a great nation was referring to Islam. Muhammad does claim to be a descendant of Ishmael, it is outlined on
Wikipedia.
I am not sure if the prophecy of a great nation was referring
to Islam.

]]> By: John http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-189 John Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:03:52 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-189 I think this study was very informative. I was just wondering if people said that Ishmael was an ancestor of Muhammed and where is that stated. Is that the great nation that the bible was talking about or what? I was just wondering because i was just reading Genesis. I think this study was very informative. I was just wondering if people said that Ishmael was an ancestor of Muhammed and where is that stated. Is that the great nation that the bible was talking about or what? I was just wondering because i was just reading Genesis.

]]> By: Delano lee http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-165 Delano lee Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:38:29 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-165 I think this is an awesome character study you have here, for it is very interesting, and informative. I can feel the rage displayed by Ishmael, although he had nothing to do with who his mother was, or the circumstances in which he was born, the course of his life was spoken by God. Abraham's & Sarah's lack of patience to wait on God resulted in a child (Ishmael), that would be blessed, but would also cause war between all of Abrahams descendants. I think this is an awesome character study you have here, for it is very interesting, and informative. I can feel the rage displayed by Ishmael, although he had nothing to do with who his mother was, or the circumstances in which he was born, the course of his life was spoken by God. Abraham’s & Sarah’s lack of patience to wait on God resulted in a child (Ishmael), that would be blessed, but would also cause war between all of Abrahams descendants.

]]> By: peder http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-131 peder Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:49:39 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-131 Consider that Ishmael was in fact the First Born of Abraham. Second, consider that the Muslims believe that it was Ishamel, not Isaac, that was almost sacraficed. Third, consider the meanings of their names: Ishmael: "he will hear/obey God" vs Isaac: "he will laugh." The conflict that we see with our western eyes is the result of a self-inflicted "solution". Witness the "curse" if you will following Isaac with his firstborn (Esau) getting cheated out of his birthright by his younger brother (Jacob). Similarly, Israel(Jacob)'s "birthright" was passed onto the new religion of Christianity. We see a tree growing up, each branch that does not produce getting pruned back in turn. If any lesson is to be learned here by me, it is that God heard Ishmael's call for help, and honored his promise to create a great nation out of him. Secondly, I should not gloat in any "birthright" that I have but be constantly aware that the Gift i have can be passed on to another should i fumble. Consider that Ishmael was in fact the First Born of Abraham. Second, consider that the Muslims believe that it was Ishamel, not Isaac, that was almost sacraficed. Third, consider the meanings of their names: Ishmael: “he will hear/obey God” vs Isaac: “he will laugh.”

The conflict that we see with our western eyes is the result of a self-inflicted “solution”. Witness the “curse” if you will following Isaac with his firstborn (Esau) getting cheated out of his birthright by his younger brother (Jacob). Similarly, Israel(Jacob)’s “birthright” was passed onto the new religion of Christianity. We see a tree growing up, each branch that does not produce getting pruned back in turn.

If any lesson is to be learned here by me, it is that God heard Ishmael’s call for help, and honored his promise to create a great nation out of him. Secondly, I should not gloat in any “birthright” that I have but be constantly aware that the Gift i have can be passed on to another should i fumble.

]]> By: me http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-82 me Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:00:49 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-82 god also promised abraham that ishmael would also be a father of millions or something like that right? so that's were the muslims come into. so since time in memorial, muslims and christians were already at war. god also promised abraham that ishmael would also be a father of millions or something like that right? so that’s were the muslims come into. so since time in memorial, muslims and christians were already at war.

]]> By: Mina http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-71 Mina Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:42:33 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-71 I don't see how Ishmael suffered. Yes he didn't get his father's inheritance but God did take care of him. Genesis 21:8-21 I don’t see how Ishmael suffered. Yes he didn’t get his father’s inheritance but God did take care of him. Genesis 21:8-21

]]> By: Andrew Mitry http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-67 Andrew Mitry Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:21:10 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-67 To be honest George, I don't know the answer, if anyone reading this knows, please feel free to comment. To be honest George, I don’t know the answer, if anyone reading this knows, please feel free to comment.

]]> By: geobish42 http://anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/comment-page-1/#comment-47 geobish42 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:19:44 +0000 http://www.anchorite.org/blog/2006/07/31/biographical-study-on-ishmael/#comment-47 Andrew, I love these character studies. Great job and keep up the good work, I hope it motivates me to do my own character studies. I understand that Ishmael was a child born of the flesh and therefore God did not bless him but my question is why should Ishmael suffer because of that? You said "Children of the flesh are not the children of God. (Romans 9:8)." It was not his fault that he was born from Hagar, not of God's will. He was cast out and was called a child that is not of the promise but that's not his fault and it just seems so harsh. Andrew, I love these character studies. Great job and keep up the good work, I hope it motivates me to do my own character studies.

I understand that Ishmael was a child born of the flesh and therefore God did not bless him but my question is why should Ishmael suffer because of that? You said “Children of the flesh are not the children of God. (Romans 9:8).” It was not his fault that he was born from Hagar, not of God’s will. He was cast out and was called a child that is not of the promise but that’s not his fault and it just seems so harsh.

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